When Ed Koch was mayor of New York, from 1978 to 1989, I’d often see him around town – in a Chinese restaurant, at the movies – where he was happy (or at least willing) to talk to us ordinary New Yorkers. The city was his home, not someplace he passed through in an SUV surrounded by a phalanx of bodyguards. In this remastered version of our conversation, held not long before his death, he talked about his ambitions, his accomplishments, and – with modesty and courage – his own mortality.